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홍차넷
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- 다양한 주제에 대해 자유롭게 글을 작성하는 게시판입니다.
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전체기타일상/생각꿀팁/강좌방송/연예도서/문학영화의료/건강문화/예술경제생활체육과학/기술철학/종교정치요리/음식역사여행육아/가정IT/컴퓨터음악창작게임스포츠사회오프모임
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민감할 수 있는 문제이고, 이 신생 커뮤니티의 운영자 분과 관련이 있는 이야기인지라 자칫 용비어천가스럽게 흘러갈 수 있어 적절한 논의가 될지 모르겠습니다만, 다소 당혹스러워서 이야기를 꺼내봅니다. 현재 넌존잘에 대한 이런저런 인식 중 일부를 대표하는 것으로 나무 위키에 서술된 내용을 들 수 있을 텐데요. 넌존잘 건에 대해 나무 위키에는 다음과 같이 적혀 있습니다. https://namu.wiki/w/PGR21?from=pgr21 '한편 전 운영진이었던 toby를 향해 줙이 통렬하게 날린 넌존잘에 수많은 유저의 공감 리플이 달리면서 toby의 완장질에 불만을 가지던 사람들이 슬쩍 기어나온 사례가 되었다' '사실 운영 당시에도 거의 대놓고 회원을 차별하는 바람에 줙의 넌존잘 사건때 많은 사람들이 줙에게 박수를 보내는 계기가 되기도 했을 정도로 운영자로써의 자질은 의심스러울 수준의 유저였던건 감안해야한다.' 이것이 나무위키에만 서술된 것이면야 누군가가 독단적으로 사건을 편향되이 기술했다고 넘기면 그만입니다만, 이외에도 PGR21 내의 몇몇 코멘트들을 보면 마치 Toby님이 줙님에게 욕 먹고 깨갱했고, 그에 대해 사람들은 환호했다는 식의 관점을 전제로 두고 이야기하는 것들을 종종 볼 수 있습니다. 예컨대 '이 분 넌존잘 사건 주인공 아니냐, 신뢰가 안 간다'라든가. 이런 식으로 마치 넌존잘 사건이 Toby님의 흑역사인 것처럼 간주되고 있더군요. 저로서는 도무지 이해가 가지 않았습니다. 옳고 그르고, 동의하고 말고, 가치판단에 개인차가 있고를 떠나서 이것은 해당 건에 대한 제 기억과는 완전히 상반되었기 때문입니다. 제가 기억하기로 당시 줙님의 글은 그다지 큰 지지를 받지 못했으며, 특히 Toby님의 코멘트에 대한 넌존잘 폭격에 대해서 [명시적으로 찬성의사를 드러낸 코멘트]는 전혀 찾아볼 수 없었습니다. 제 기억 속에서 넌존잘 건은 그저 우발적인 해프닝 이상도 이하도 아니었거든요. 해서 왜 이렇게 기괴한 방식으로 사건을 기억하고 있는지 궁금했습니다. 그리고 이것은 단순히 저의 흐릿한 기억이 아니라, 당시 페이지의 저장된 데이터로도 확인할 수 있었지요. http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Yet8zBgeXpMJ:www.pgrer.net/pb/pb.php%3Fid%3Dfreedom%26no%3D57218+&cd=3&hl=ko&ct=clnk&gl=kr 모든 코멘트가 기록된 것이 아니기에 제한점은 있습니다만 적어도 분위기를 보여주는 데에는 충분하다고 생각합니다. 나무위키를 비롯한 일련의 인식들 - Toby님에 대한 줙님의 댓글이 당시 많은 이들에게 공감을 사는 분위기였다 - 이 올바르다고 하려면 해당 글에서든 아니면 이후 여타 게시물에서든 '아 toby 재수 없었는데 줙에게 욕 먹는 거 보기 쌤통이더라'라는 식의 글들이 꽤나 범람했어야 합니다만, 현재로서는 그런 글들은 찾아볼 수가 없다는 것이죠. Toby라는 유저와 줙이라는 유저에 대한 개개인의 관점들과는 별개로, 정확한 사실관계에 대한 근거가 없는 주장이라는 이야기입니다. 재미있는 것은 Toby님의 운영진 사퇴 당시에는 넌존잘 사건으로 반목을 보이셨던 줙님 역시도 감사를 표하셨다는 점인데요. http://pgr21.com/?b=8&n=53452&c=1974270 이로 미루어볼 때 당시 줙님이 Toby님의 운영상의 불만이 있다고 했더라도 그렇게 큰 수준은 아니었음을 짐작할 수 있습니다. 정말 Toby님에 대한 앙금이 뿌리깊었고 반감이 강했다면 개발 운영진으로서의 공로고 뭐고 치하했을 리가 없으니까요. 여하간, 이렇게 명백하게 왜곡된 진술이 횡행하는 이유라면....제 생각엔 그 시기에 라이브로 상황을 보지 못한 이들이 대다수였고(글 자체가 새벽 1시가 넘어 올라왔고, 금세 삭제 되었으므로) 나중에 엔하위키 미러 등지에서 편향된 정보를 읽고서 잘못된 상황 이해를 하고 있는 게 아닌가 싶군요. 라이브 당시에 사태의 추이를 처음부터 끝까지 보았다면, 저런 식의 인식을 가지기가 어렵잖나 합니다. Warning: Use of undefined constant no - assumed 'no' (this will throw an Error in a future version of PHP) in /home/redtea/html/a_skin/bbsd/view.php on line 133 Warning: Use of undefined constant no - assumed 'no' (this will throw an Error in a future version of PHP) in /home/redtea/html/a_skin/bbsd/view.php on line 146 Warning: Use of undefined constant vote - assumed 'vote' (this will throw an Error in a future version of PHP) in /home/redtea/html/a_skin/bbsd/view.php on line 161 8 이 게시판에 등록된 구밀복검님의 최근 게시물
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