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홍차넷
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Warning: Use of undefined constant is_admin - assumed 'is_admin' (this will throw an Error in a future version of PHP) in /home/redtea/html/zero_header.php on line 269
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게임
Warning: Use of undefined constant no - assumed 'no' (this will throw an Error in a future version of PHP) in /home/redtea/html/pb/bbs_title.php on line 21
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- 게임 게시판입니다.
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Warning: Use of undefined constant level - assumed 'level' (this will throw an Error in a future version of PHP) in /home/redtea/html/a_skin/bbsd/setup.php on line 29
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Warning: Use of undefined constant name - assumed 'name' (this will throw an Error in a future version of PHP) in /home/redtea/html/a_skin/bbsd/view.php on line 2
Warning: Use of undefined constant HTTP_HOST - assumed 'HTTP_HOST' (this will throw an Error in a future version of PHP) in /home/redtea/html/pb/memo_replace.php on line 3
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| Date |
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| Name | 김덕배 |
| Subject | 현 시점 CJ의 문제점에 대한 생각 |
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그 희귀하다는 오존(삼화)팬입니다. 언제나 CJ는 국내 롤팀의 싱징같아서 팬심을 떠나서도 애정이 있었는데, 오늘 진에어 전을 보고나니 너무 안타까운 생각이 들어서 이런 저런 이야기를 하려고 합니다. 오늘 2경기가 너무도 아쉬워서, 2경기위주로 보자면... 냉정하게 말해 오더가 있다면 나올 수 없는 장면이 지나치게 많이 나왔습니다. 바텀에서 르블랑이 빅웨이브를 이끌고 스플릿할때 운타라는 탑에서 대치를 했고 나머지 넷은 미드에 있었습니다. 그리고 르블랑을 확인하고도 대치에서 머물렀는데.... 이때문에 르블랑이 억제기까지 밀게됩니다. 아마 우리가 압박하면 르블랑이 빼겠지란 생각이었을수도 있는데, 적어도 누가 수비하러 가는 모션을 취해주거나 아니면 위협을 해서 빼도록 하든가(그러기엔 빅웨이브가 너무 컸지만)했어야한다고 봅니다. 그러나 아무도 그러질 않았고 바텀 억제기까지 아무것도 하지않고 내줍니다. 그리고 이후에 상대가 르블랑이라고 하는 암살자가 있다하더라도 너무 뭉쳐다니기만 하다가 미드 억제기도 편안하게 내줍니다. 상대가 바론 시야를 장악하고 낚시 시도를 하자, 징크스가 미드 위쪽 부쉬를 시야체크했음에도, 더이상의 시야체크를 하지않아 바론을 그냥 내줍니다. 상대는 바론이 느린 조합도 아니었지만, 엄청 빠른 조합도 아니었습니다. 바론을 내주고 그대로 자연스럽게 교전없이, 다른 오브젝트를 취함없이, 한타를 열지도 않고, 2억제기를 내줍니다. 그리고 약간의 대치끝에 3억제기도 내주고 미니언웨이브에 게임이 끝납니다. 3억제기 내줄때 킬스코어는 3대3이고 글로벌골드 차가 크지도 않았습니다. 주저리주저리 말했지만, 몇가지로 정리해봅니다. 1.오더나 보좌의 부재 : 오더가 누군지는 몰라도 너무 큰 실책을 했는데, 그에 대한 의견을 팀원들이 내는지 의문입니다. 바텀 르블랑 빅웨이브 라고 누구도 이야기 안한것 같아요. 바론도 시야체크 한번해보고 그냥 두는 걸로 봐서, 팀원들이 이야기를 참 안하는것같다는 생각이 듭니다. 음성파일 분석해서, 정보를 덜 내놓는 팀원을 독려할 필요가 있습니다. 2. 의아한 조합: 마오카이 거르고 징크스 나미를 가져가고 트런들 가져갔을때 사실 이게 뭔가 했습니다. CC와 이니시에이터가 너무 부족한 조합이기때문입니다. 나미 물감옥 해일, 징크스 덫을 빼면 하드cc가 없습니다. 이런 조합은 상대를 잘라먹기에 너무 나쁩니다. 받아치는 한타만 괜찮습니다. 나미 물감옥으로 자르려는 시도가 있었지만 너무나도 쉽게 무위로 돌아갔습니다. 3.시야장악의 부재 운타라의 트런들이 뒷텔을 잡는다든가 하는게 나타나지 않았습니다. 이런건 시야장악 당했기 때문입니다. 바론도 너무 쉽게 먹혔는데, 전혀 보이지 않았기 때문입니다. 와딩에 더 신경쓸 필요가 있습니다. 그런데 사실 이 게임에서 와딩이 부족했던 이유는 '일단 모여'의 오더 정도만 있었기 때문입니다. 시야장악하고 모이는 과정이 있어야했습니다. 4. 의아한 탑콜 바론을 거저 먹고 미드 푸쉬를 할때 상대 르블랑이 뒤를 잡았습니다. Cj는 눈치채고 빼기 시작하는데... 운타라는 너무 늦게 합류합니다. 팀 운영의 핵심은 대개 탑솔입니다. 탑솔이 스플릿이나 백도어, 상대 정글 장악을 하다가도 한타에 합류하는 움직임이 필요한데 이런것이 너무 안이뤄집니다. 이유는 운타라가 맵리딩이 부족하거나 콜이 늦기때문입니다. 선수들이 저보다 게임을 잘 알고, 노력하고 있을 겁니다. 하지만 때로는 간단한게 안보일 수도 있다고 생각하여 아쉬운 마음을 남깁니다. 명문 게임단 cj의 부활을 국내 롤챔스 팬으로서 기원합니다. 그리고 마지막으로 헛소리 한줄만... 댄디 국내에서 뛰는거 참 보고 싶네요 ㅠㅠ Warning: Use of undefined constant no - assumed 'no' (this will throw an Error in a future version of PHP) in /home/redtea/html/a_skin/bbsd/view.php on line 133 Warning: Use of undefined constant no - assumed 'no' (this will throw an Error in a future version of PHP) in /home/redtea/html/a_skin/bbsd/view.php on line 146 Warning: Use of undefined constant vote - assumed 'vote' (this will throw an Error in a future version of PHP) in /home/redtea/html/a_skin/bbsd/view.php on line 161 0 |
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7348 class="iamcmt" style="display:none;"> Warning: Use of undefined constant no - assumed 'no' (this will throw an Error in a future version of PHP) in /home/redtea/html/a_skin/bbsd/view_comment.php on line 66
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7348'> 쉬군
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7348>삭제 주소복사
Warning: Use of undefined constant level - assumed 'level' (this will throw an Error in a future version of PHP) in /home/redtea/html/a_skin/bbsd/view_comment.php on line 150
일단 하루가 너무 수동적입니다.
물론 라이너 기량에 따라 달라지는게 정글러라지만 뭔가 만들어주는 플레이를 전혀 못해요.
그리고 운타라도 점점 헤매는 느낌입니다.
씨제이의 전통인 우직함을 빼면 유기적이지 못한 느낌이예요.
메라도 기량 하락이 눈에 띄구요.
정말 크레이머가 멱살 잡고 끌고가는 느낌인데 한계가 너무 명확합니다.
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Warning: Use of undefined constant vote - assumed 'vote' (this will throw an Error in a future version of PHP) in /home/redtea/html/a_skin/bbsd/view_comment.php on line 171
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물론 라이너 기량에 따라 달라지는게 정글러라지만 뭔가 만들어주는 플레이를 전혀 못해요.
그리고 운타라도 점점 헤매는 느낌입니다.
씨제이의 전통인 우직함을 빼면 유기적이지 못한 느낌이예요.
메라도 기량 하락이 눈에 띄구요.
정말 크레이머가 멱살 잡고 끌고가는 느낌인데 한계가 너무 명확합니다.
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