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- 다양한 주제에 대해 자유롭게 글을 작성하는 게시판입니다.
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전체기타일상/생각꿀팁/강좌방송/연예도서/문학영화의료/건강문화/예술경제생활체육과학/기술철학/종교정치요리/음식역사여행육아/가정IT/컴퓨터음악창작게임스포츠사회오프모임
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| Name | Cogito |
| Subject | [LoL] Is Gap Closing? |
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** 10/10 있었던 롤드컵 결승 결과에 대한 스포일러가 있습니다. 롤드컵이 끝났습니다. 작년에 이어 중국의 2연승인데요, 사실 FPX가 가장 힘들었던 상대가 IG 였던 걸 생각하면 올해도 중국의 강세가 눈에 띄네요. 세계 최강팀 5개를 고른다면 중국 팀이 몇 개나 들어갈까요. 한국도 작년보다는 결과가 훨씬 좋았고, 한국도 무서운 루키들이 커나가긴 하지만요. 롤이 세계적으로 인기 게임이 아니었던 2011년, 현재의 EU메타를 만든 2011 롤드컵 한국에 롤이 처음 들어와서 아직 외국문물 수입하던 2012년 준우승 이후 2013년 부터는 한국이 맡아놓다싶이 한게 롤드컵 우승이었죠. 한한 결승전이 부지기수였고. 그러나 2018년 부터는.. 한국이 중국 바로 다음인지도 모르겠네요. 한국에 롤이 전파 된 후 급속도로 성장된 한국 롤판과 최근의 중국 롤판이 겹쳐 보이기도 하고요. 사실 오래전 일도 아닙니다. 고작 3년 전에 서양권에서 "Gap is closing" 이라고 했을때 한국 커뮤니티는 대부분 비웃는 수준이었습니다. '야 너네 고작 그정도 하면서? SKT한테 5전제로 이긴 적이 있기나 해?' 정도로요. 그러나 이제는 메타파악및 밴픽까지 해서, 중국 팀의 5전제가 정말 탄탄합니다. 한국 팀은 저런 것을 보고 따라하거나 대처할 수 있는지, reverse engineer는 가능할지 궁금합니다. 중국이 오히려 gap을 벌리는건 아닐까요 *** 아래는 3년 전 외국 LoL 인사 인터뷰입니다. SKT과 ROX가 세계 1,2위 팀임에 이견의 여지가 없던 시절이죠. (원문 주소 http://esportsheaven.com/articles/view/5862 ) (지금은 기사가 없네요. 그리고 내용 중 [...] 은 원문에 딱 그렇게 써 있습니다. 중략보다는 보통 ... 에 가까운 것 같네요) Logan Leavitt : 8강에서, H2K는 유일하게 남아있는 LCS팀이었고 이제 4강에서 한국팀 3팀에 한국인 16명이 있는데요, 갭이 넓어지고 있나요? 무슨 일이 벌어지고 있는거죠? Neil “Prolly” Hammond : '갭이 줄어들고 있다'는 말이 우스운 짤방(meme)으로 돌아다닌다는 사실을 압니다만, 내가 생각하기엔 진짜로 줄어들고 있어요[...] 시즌 3때 LCS 팀들이 하는게임, 그리고 그들의 전략과 지식을 SKT에 비교해보면 저~엉말로 컸어요. 그러니까 갭이 줄어들고 있어요. 시즌3랑 시즌4 중반까지도 한국인들이 뭘 하는지 누구도 제대로 알지 못했어요. 왜 그렇게 하는지, 어떻게 그렇게 하는지 이런거요. 걔네들의 행동을 보고 원리를 파악(reverse engineer) 하지 못했지만, 이젠 훨씬 더 가능하고(a lot more possible) 따라서 갭이 줄어들고 있는거죠. 일단 지식이 동등해졌기 때문에, 훨씬 더 발전하기 쉬워졌어요. 지식 부터 모자라면 정말 따라잡을 방법이 없는거니까요. 그러니까 갭이 줄어들더라도 여전히 한국이 더 잘하니까 4강에 3팀이 들어가게 됐지만 [...] 갭이 줄어들고 있다고 보는거죠. 난 사실 그 짤방을 잘 이해 못하겠어요. 여전히 한국이 더 잘하더라도 시즌 3때처럼 엄청나게 잘하는건 아니거든요. 시즌 3때는... SKT 가 게임할때 우리는 걔들이 뭐 하는지 알지도 못했으니까요. Logan Leavitt: NA 팬들에게 최후의 희망이자 마지막 영웅인거 아시죠. NA 팬들에게 한 말씀 해주시겠어요? Neil “Prolly” Hammond : 음... 사실은 전 NA에서 왔지만 EU에도 있었기 때문에, 양 지역에 대해 '여긴 내 집이니까 이정돈 되지?' 하고 트레쉬 토크를 할 수 있을 줄 알았기 때문에 좀 놀랐어요. 그러니가 내가 EU 를 놀리더라도 내가 유럽에 있으니까 놀리지 못하고, 북미를 놀려도 '야 나 북미야~ 진정해' 할 줄 알았죠. 요즘 유럽보다 북미를 많이 쫓아다녔기 때문에 유럽에서 다시 받아줘서 놀랐어요. '넌 배신자야, 여기서 꺼져' 같은걸 각오했기 때문에 다시 돌아와서 좋았어요. 우리 선수들도 사람들이 내가 얼마나 멍청한지 안다니 재미있어 하고요. [...] 팬과 선수들의 반응이 전 정말 좋았어요 - 보통은 플레이어들이 주목을 받고 전 사이드에 빠져 있었는데 말이죠. Logan Leavitt : 뉴욕에서 4강전을 삼성이랑 하게 되었는데요, 1주일 남은 지금 분위기는 어때요? Neil “Prolly” Hammond : 제 생각에는 삼성은 차분한(calming) 편일거 같아요. 알버스는 괴팍한 팀이고 우리가 모르는 이상한걸 준비했을 수도 있었겠죠. 하지만 삼성의 메타는 우리랑 비슷한 것 같고 읽을 수 있을것 같아요. 픽밴이 알버스 전보다 쉬울거에요. 물론 삼성의 초반은 월등히 세니까 게임 시작하고 나선 훨신 힘들거에요. [...] 하지만 팀게임에서 픽밴은 정말 중요한 부분이에요. 원하는 매치업대로 픽밴이 된다면 깜짝 전략같은건 없다는거고, 자신감이 생기죠. Logan Leavitt : 대전표 반대편에서는 락스가 슼과 다시 붙지요. 누가 뉴욕에 올 것 같나요? Neil “Prolly” Hammond : 슼은 슼이라는게 싫네요. 이건 정말 성가신데요, 슼이 지는 쪽에 건다면 그건 그냥 있어보이려고 하는 게 되잖아요. 슼이 이길거라는게 논리적이라는점도 있고요. 락스가 몇 몇 강점이 있다고 생각하지만, 여전히 중후반이 중요하죠. 락스가 실수를 더 하지만, 슼과 같은 수준의 플레이를 하겠죠. 그냥... 락스가 실수를 할 가능성이 더 높아요. 락스가 초반에는 조금 더 잘할 거에요. 그리고 게임을 잘 해나가겠죠? 하지만 슼의 중후반은 정말 스마트하기 때문에 슼이 우세할거라고 봐요. 게임이 3-0이 될 거 같진 않고 3-2가 될 거 같아요. 어느 쪽이 이기건 3-1은 아닐걸요. Warning: Use of undefined constant no - assumed 'no' (this will throw an Error in a future version of PHP) in /home/redtea/html/a_skin/bbsd/view.php on line 133 Warning: Use of undefined constant no - assumed 'no' (this will throw an Error in a future version of PHP) in /home/redtea/html/a_skin/bbsd/view.php on line 146 Warning: Use of undefined constant vote - assumed 'vote' (this will throw an Error in a future version of PHP) in /home/redtea/html/a_skin/bbsd/view.php on line 161 1 |
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좋은 글 감사합니다 :) 16년에 올리셨던 글이 요로코럼 다시 연결되네요.
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