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- 다양한 주제에 대해 자유롭게 글을 작성하는 게시판입니다.
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전체기타일상/생각꿀팁/강좌방송/연예도서/문학영화의료/건강문화/예술경제생활체육과학/기술철학/종교정치요리/음식역사여행육아/가정IT/컴퓨터음악창작게임스포츠사회오프모임
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| Name | 새의선물 |
| Subject | Sting - Russians |
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2차대전 종전과 함께 시작된 냉전은 80년대에도 여전히 그 영향력을 발휘하고 있었고, 상대방에 대한 프로파간다 역시 문화 및 생활 깊숙히 들어와 있었습니다. 외계인이 지구에 침공하는 영화들을 공산주의의 공격으로 보는 분석들도 많았고요. 어째든 이런 편견이나 프로파간다에 대해서 생각을 해 보자고 만든 곡이 스팅의 솔로 데뷰 음반에 실렸던 Russians라는 곡입니다. 원래 이 곡을 만들게 된 계기는 그가 콜롬비아 대학에 있던 연구원을 만나면서 시작됩니다. 그 연구원은 당시 소비에트에서 방송되던 위성방송의 신호를 받아서 티비로 보곤 했었다고 합니다. 물론 미국에서 그러면 안되었지만... 아무튼 그 연구원과 티비를 보는데, 러시아어를 전혀 할 줄 몰랐던 스팅이 본 방송은 러시아에서 어린이를 위한 방송으로 '세사미 스트리트'와 비슷한 진행을 하는 방송이었다고 합니다. 이 방송을 보면서 스팅이 생각한것은 러시아인도 인간이고 그들의 아이들을 사랑한다면, 그들 역시 전쟁을 진정으로 원하는것은 아니지 않을까 하는 것이었다고 합니다. 그러면서 생각해낸 가사 부분이 It would be such an ignorant thing to do/ If the Russians love their children too였다고 합니다. 그가 이 곡을 만들었을때 이 곡을 폴리스에서 연주하기는 힘들었는데, 그 중에서 제일 큰 이유로는 드러머였던 스튜어트 코플랜드 때문입니다. 스튜어트 코플랜드의 아버지는 CIA의 전신이었던 OSS의 핵심인물중에 하나였고, 나중에 CIA가 만들어진 후 50년대부터 70년대까지 CIA내에서 외교쪽 정책에 중요한 역할을 했던 마일즈 코플랜드 쥬니어의 아들로, 외교문제에 있어서 굉장히 보수적인 입장을 가지고 있었었습니다. 그래서 폴리스 시절부터 스팅과 정치 외교적인 문제로 자주 부딪혔고, 그런것이 나중에 쌓여서 폴리스가 해체하는데 꽤 큰 영향을 끼친것으로 알려져 있고요. 아무튼 스팅의 가사에 대해서 스튜어트 코플랜드는 코웃음을 치면서 말도안되는 가사라고 했다고 하더군요. 결국 스팅은 이 곡을 솔로 음반에 싣는데, 이 곡의 주제는 프로코피에프의 키예 중위에서 로망스 부분에서 가져왔습니다. 1956년 12월 러시아의 흐루시초프가 서방 기자들 앞에서 유명한 말인 '당신들을 묻어버리겠어 (We will bury you)'를 언급합니다. 원래 이 말의 전문은 '당신들이 좋든 싫든 간에, 역사는 우리 편이다. 우리는 당신들을 묻어버릴 것이다'라고 하고 나중에 '당신들의 노동계급'이라고 언급하기는 했지만, 냉전시대를 대표하는 말중에 하나로 꼽히는 말입니다. 스팅은 이 말에 대해서, 이것은 프로파간다로 러시아인들이 자신들의 아이들을 사랑한다면, 전면전으로 나가지는 않을것이라고 이야기를 합니다. 그러고나서 그는 Oppenheimer's deadly toy에 대한 언급을 합니다. 오펜하이머는 로버트 오펜하이머로 맨하탄 프로젝트를 지휘했던 인물로 핵무기를 최전선에서 개발했던 인물입니다. 나중에 그는 핵무기가 어떻게 사용되는가를 보고나서 자신의 입장을 바꿔서 핵무기 폐기를 위한 활동을 하다가 나중에 비미활동위원회(the House Committee on Un-American Activities)의 조사를 받기도 했습니다. 이 기록을 바탕으로 해서 쓰여진 하이나르 키프하르트의 희곡 [오펜하이며 사건]은 꽤 재미있게 읽은 희곡중에 하나네요. 아무튼 스팅은 There is no monopoly in common sense/ On either side of the political fence/ We share the same biology/ Regardless of ideology라고 하면서 정치와 이념에 있어서 어느 한쪽이 맞는건 없지만, 같은 종으로서의 인류를 언급합니다. 당시 미국의 대통령은 레이건이었는데, 레이건이 대통령이 되고 얼마 지나지 않아서 레이건의 정책보좌관중에 한명이었던 1982년 다음과 같은 발언을 합니다. The probability of nuclear war is 40 percent...and our strategy is winnable nuclear war. 이 발언은 당시 전략중에 하나인데 이것에 대해서 국방부에서는 부인을 하지만, 어째든 당시 핵전쟁에 대한 두려움이 극도로 심각했던 상태에서 나온 이런 발언은 프로파간다로서 강력한 역할을 하곤 했습니다. 가사에 레이건이 했다는 말로 나오는 "We will protect you"는 정말로 그런 말을 했는지는 찾을 수가 없어서 확인을 못하겠네요. 1985년 말경 싱글로 발매되어서 빌보드 챠트 16위에 올랐고, 유럽 각국의 챠트에 올랐던 곡입니다. 특히 프랑스에서 인기를 많이 끌어서 골드레코드를 획득하기도 했는데, 한국에서는 금지곡 목록에 이름 올리고나서 방송을 제대로 타지도 못하고 라이센스 음반은 이 곡이 잘려서 발매가 되었습니다. In Europe and America, there's a growing feeling of hysteria Conditioned to respond to all the threats In the rhetorical speeches of the Soviets Mr. Krushchev said we will bury you I don't subscribe to this point of view It would be such an ignorant thing to do If the Russians love their children too How can I save my little boy from Oppenheimer's deadly toy There is no monopoly in common sense On either side of the political fence We share the same biology Regardless of ideology Believe me when I say to you I hope the Russians love their children too There is no historical precedent To put the words in the mouth of the President There's no such thing as a winnable war It's a lie we don't believe anymore Mr. Reagan says we will protect you I don't subscribe to this point of view Believe me when I say to you I hope the Russians love their children too We share the same biology Regardless of ideology What might save us, me, and you Is if the Russians love their children too Warning: Use of undefined constant no - assumed 'no' (this will throw an Error in a future version of PHP) in /home/redtea/html/a_skin/bbsd/view.php on line 133 Warning: Use of undefined constant no - assumed 'no' (this will throw an Error in a future version of PHP) in /home/redtea/html/a_skin/bbsd/view.php on line 146 Warning: Use of undefined constant vote - assumed 'vote' (this will throw an Error in a future version of PHP) in /home/redtea/html/a_skin/bbsd/view.php on line 161 2
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조지 마이클의 I want your sex 같은 노래가 잘려서 나오던 시절이였군요.
Faith 앨범을 구입했는데도 존재 자체를 알 수가 없었던.....
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Faith 앨범을 구입했는데도 존재 자체를 알 수가 없었던.....
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