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홍차넷
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티타임
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- 다양한 주제에 대해 자유롭게 글을 작성하는 게시판입니다.
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전체기타일상/생각꿀팁/강좌방송/연예도서/문학영화의료/건강문화/예술경제생활체육과학/기술철학/종교정치요리/음식역사여행육아/가정IT/컴퓨터음악창작게임스포츠사회오프모임
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| Subject | 주관적으로 보는 인터넷 커뮤의 사회적 영향력 |
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예전부터 말 많던 주제인데, 최근 총선 - 재보선 - 대선이라는 선거를 겪으면서 감이 잡힌 게 있어서 올려봅니다. 1. 소규모 커뮤니티/커뮤니티 서브게시판 한두개의 여론은 문자 그대로 '찻잔 속의 태풍'. ex) 루리웹의 정치유머 게시판(극성 이재명 안티가 되버린 문빠), 디씨의 미국정치 갤러리(QAnon류 음모론), TERF 페미니즘 커뮤니티 등 이들은 문자 그대로 무시해도 되는 수준입니다. 이번 대선이 0.7%p 표차로 승부가 갈린 역대급 박빙선거였다는데, 개인적으로는 위 극성 이재명 안티인 문빠들이 없었어도 여전히 윤석열이 이겼을 거라 봅니다. 또 TERF들이 주축이 되서 만든 여성의당은 존재조차 모르는 사람들이 많지요. 그 정도 수준입니다. 2. 중규모 커뮤니티 여러곳에 존재하는 여론은 '사회에 존재하는 여러 소수집단 중 하나'. ex) 클리앙, 딴지 등에 존재하는 극성 민주당 지지자(이재명을 비토하지는 않는), 수십만급 구독수를 가진 정치 유튜버/팟캐스트들(가세연, 신의한수, 뉴스공장, 열린공감 등), TERF가 아닌 레디컬 페미니즘 커뮤니티 등 아주 무시해도 될 수준은 아니지만 얘들에 휘둘리면 선거 필패합니다. 1은 딱 봐도 쪽수가 안 되는데 2는 좀 되기 때문에, 정치인들이 이들에 영합할 유혹은 더 커서 진짜 위험한 대상이에요. 극성 지지층만 믿고 몰상식한 막말 끝에 미통당이 참패했던 21대 총선 생태탕 등 강성 민주당층에나 먹힐 네거티브만 믿었다가 박영선이 참패한 2021년 재보선이 뼈아픈 실제사례입니다. 3. 대규모 커뮤니티 전반에 존재하는 여론은 '현실 트렌드를 증폭/과장해서' 보여준 것. ex) 청년들의 남초 커뮤니티 전반에 깔려있는 안티페미니즘 정서, 일부 극성 민주당 커뮤니티를 제외한 커뮤니티들의 문재인 정부/민주당 여론 악화, 커뮤니티들에서 점차 많이 보이는 운동인/주식코인 투자자 등 여기서부터는 현실에서도 쉽게 관찰할 수 있는 '찻잔 속 태풍 레벨을 확실하게 넘어선' 커뮤니티 여론입니다. 문재인/민주당 비토 여론의 확산은 2021년 재보선, 20대 대선의 결과로 확인할 수 있고(단 재보선은 투표율이 낮고, 민주당 악재가 유독 많았기에 반민주당 유권자가 과대대표되긴 했습니다) 청년 남성의 안티페미니즘 정서는 2021년 재보선, 20대 대선 결과로 역산할 수 있고(단 재보선은 위에서 말한 이유로 안티페미 여론이 과대평가됐습니다) 운동인의 증가, 주식코인 투자자들의 비율 증가는 통계나 기사로도 확인할 수 있습니다. (https://www.joongang.co.kr/article/24123435#home, https://www.index.go.kr/potal/main/EachDtlPageDetail.do?idx_cd=1658 등 참고) 다만 이 경우에도 커뮤 여론은 현실 트렌드를 '증폭/과장해서' 보여줄 뿐, 현실 그대로가 아님을 유념해야 합니다. 이대남이 안티페미니즘 성향이 강하다 해도 여가부 폐지한다는 윤석열을 뽑은 부류는 60%가 조금 안 되는 정도고(72%까지 나온 재보선은 위 이유로 과대표집된 수치입니다) 이대녀도 페미니즘을 내세운 이재명을 비슷한 강도로 뽑았습니다. 커뮤만 보면 각각 80%씩은 뽑을 것 같은데 그 정도까진 아니지요. 이재명 뽑은 이대남, 윤석열 뽑은 이대녀도 30%대에 이릅니다 이재명도 전국적으로 48%는 득표했고 1%p도 안 되는 차이로 졌습니다. 이것도 커뮤니티만 보면 30%는 받을까 싶지만 현실은 많이 다릅니다. 운동, 주식코인 안 하는 사람들도 현실에서 꽤나 많이 찾아볼 수 있지요. 커뮤에선 말을 안 할 뿐. 어렴풋한 느낌이지만 인터넷 고이용층/정치 스펙트럼상 양극단은 커뮤니티 영향력을 과대평가하고, 인터넷 저이용층/정치적 중도층은 커뮤니티 영향력을 과소평가한다는 인상을 많이 받습니다. Warning: Use of undefined constant no - assumed 'no' (this will throw an Error in a future version of PHP) in /home/redtea/html/a_skin/bbsd/view.php on line 133 Warning: Use of undefined constant no - assumed 'no' (this will throw an Error in a future version of PHP) in /home/redtea/html/a_skin/bbsd/view.php on line 146 Warning: Use of undefined constant vote - assumed 'vote' (this will throw an Error in a future version of PHP) in /home/redtea/html/a_skin/bbsd/view.php on line 161 7
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어차피 현생에서 얘기하는 것보다 넷상에서 얘기하는게 더 많지 않습니까?
현생의 여론은 허상이고 넷상의 여론이 진짜일지도...
하지만 선거 때는 개표가 있어서 그렇지 않았다고 한다
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현생의 여론은 허상이고 넷상의 여론이 진짜일지도...
하지만 선거 때는 개표가 있어서 그렇지 않았다고 한다
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