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홍차넷
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유머
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- 유머가 아닌 펌글, 영상 등 가볍게 볼 수 있는 글들도 게시가 가능합니다.
- 여러 회원들이 함께 사용하기 위해 각 회원당 하루 5개로 횟수제한이 있습니다.
- 특정인 비방성 자료는 삼가주십시오.
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| Subject | 욕먹고 있는 포크레인 꼰대들. |
 기존 꽁대들이 젊은애들 등골 뽑어먹는다 삼자포화를 맞고 있는 게시물이에요. 저도 이런 나쁜놈들 했는데 현직뷴 말을 들으니 무작정 나쁜놈들 하기가 글트러구여. 댓글 발췌1 중장비랑 막노동은 다른데. 그리고 저런데 오는 기사들도 어차피 일당받고 일하시는거고, 기사부르는 시공사는 보조부른적없어서 보조기사 돈 없는거임. 일맡기긴 신뢰가 안가고 그럼 가르친뒤 써야하는데 시공사가 돈안줘서 일당이 없어, 그럼 본인 일당에서 나눠줘라는거임? 현장에 굴삭기 쓰려면 기존에 주던데로50주고 끝인데, 오기로 한 기사가 보조기사있다고 돈 더 달라고 한다? 걍 딴 기사 부름. 견적이 일당 50으로 이미 잡혀있는거라 더 못줌. 차라리 막노동이면 몸만 있으면 되니까 일당받아낼수있겠지. 근데 중장비 1대에 사람 둘이 붙는다? 일당안줌. 글 제목부터 잘못된거임. 댓글발췌2 쉴드 치려는건 아니고, 위에 댓글들 보니 관행이니 옛날세대니 어쩌고 잘 모르는거같아서 적어봄. 재개발 재건축 하면서 장비기사들 엄청 많이 부렸음. 그러다보니 그쪽 생태계도 잘 알고, 최근엔 타일이나 배워볼까? 하고 아부지친구 밑에서 일해봐서 노가다도 어느정도는 앎. 일단 구조가 아예 다름. 타일이나 경량같은 기공들은 데모도가 필요함. 왜냐하면 같은 작업시간으로 봤을때 타일한장 더 붙이기 / 레미탈 비비기, 전자가 돈이 더 크니 뒷일은 월급이나 일당 주고 쓰는게 합리적이기 때문. 그래서 데모도만 하는 아재도 있고, 곰방,양중만 하는 아재도 있음. 일배우고 싶으면 옆에서 시다 하면서 어깨너머로 보다가 한번씩 시켜줄때 하는거고. 근데, 장비는 아예 다름. 굴삭기든 크레인이든 모든 장비 다 같은 궤인데, 일단 크레인은 크레인노조가 있어서 그들만의 세상이라 잘 모르는데 아마 비슷할거임. 내가 잘 아는 굴삭기에 빗대 설명해보겠음. 난 02같은 작은 바퀴장비는 한두번 부르는거라 그냥 그 지역에 있는 개인기사 써서 논외로 치고 주로 텐이나 480,520같은 큰 궤도장비만 썼는데, 보통 계약할때 텐이나 480나 큰 차이는 없는데 1000+-로 준단 말이야. 밥은 무조건 우리가 챙기고 기름,요소수같은건 계약마다 다른데 어쨌든 저만치 준다? 근데 공사는 공기가 정해져있고, 오늘 해야하는 분량이 있단말이야. 오늘 조금 했으니 내일 더 하자. 오늘 많이 했으니 내일은 조금 하자. 이게 아님. 빨리하면 빨리 할수록 장비가 일찍 빠지고 그만큼 다른 스케줄에 빨리 투입이 되니 시간이 돈이란 말이야. 근데 누가 일 가르쳐달라고 왔어 근데 장비당 기사는 한명이야 만약 얘를 가르친다고 태우면 난 놀아야됨. 물론 공기는 그만치 늦어질꺼고, 기사가 가져갈 파이를 나눠야되는데, 왜 굳이? 거기다 장비 운전만 할줄안다고 일이 진행이 되나? 어디에 물을 어떻게 뿌려야 먼지가 덜나고, 양수기 터지면 고쳐야하고, 일을 알아야 일을 할거아니야. 그래서 물반장으로 쓰자니 기존 물반장이 일도 오래해왔고, 무엇보다 100의 일을 수행 해줬었는데, 얘를 새끼기사로 키우자고 물반장을 갈아치우자니 일 진행속도 확 느려지고, 추가로 인원 써가며 월급주자니 굳이 필요한 출력도 아니고, 쓸 이유가 없음. 그래서 보통 물대부터 잡는데 아이러니한게 이건 또 싫어하더라. 왜? 난 옆에있는 짱깨랑 다르게 굴삭기 면허증이 있는데 왜 13만원받고 물대를 잡아야되? 생각하거든. 그래서 시ㅇ벌 내가 대출이든 현금이든 장비 사서 현장 들어간다. ?????누가써줌? 철거는 물론이고 당장 폐기물이든 흙이든 덤프에 싣는거도 기술임. 덤프 한대당 35~ 많게는 40씩 받아가는데 열대분량 폐기물 15대에 실어보내면 누가 써줌. 그래서 울며 겨자먹기로 물대 잡고, 양수기도 다뤄보다가 점심시간이나 바가지질 좀 해보고, 메인기사 아프면 장비 놀릴순 없으니 모자라도 한번씩 타보며 배우는 수 밖에 없음 간추려서 말하면, 위에 댓글들이 말하는 관행이니, 라떼니 그 이유보다, 굳이 새끼기사를 쓸 필요가 없는데, 더군다나 장비타는 기회도 주는데 돈까지 준다? 기사가 미친거지, 아부지거나..그럼 신입기사들은 어디서배우냐! 그건 나도 몰라. 그런 연습이나 실습 할만한 환경이 없는걸 어째. 근데 장비 자체가 정년이 없고, 실력이나 인맥 조금만 생기면 돈1000 우스우니 ㅈ같아도 배우려면 지인찬스나 꽁노동 하는 수밖에 없지 - 어린애 등꼴 배먹는 포크레인 꽁대들이라 욕먹음 - 근데 포크레인 부사수 하나 키우려면 내 장비 줘가며 알려줘야하고 공기만 늦어지고 돈은 그대로 혹은 깍임. - 다 배우면 어차피 독립할 건데 - 내 돈 줘가며 그렇게 할 포크레인 기사는 혈족말곤 없음. Warning: Use of undefined constant no - assumed 'no' (this will throw an Error in a future version of PHP) in /home/redtea/html/a_skin/bbsd/view.php on line 133 Warning: Use of undefined constant no - assumed 'no' (this will throw an Error in a future version of PHP) in /home/redtea/html/a_skin/bbsd/view.php on line 146 Warning: Use of undefined constant vote - assumed 'vote' (this will throw an Error in a future version of PHP) in /home/redtea/html/a_skin/bbsd/view.php on line 161 4 |
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별다른 가치를 창출하지 않는 수습의 일당을 줘야 하는가... 어려운 문제네요. ㄷㄷ
인턴이라고 생각하면 줘야 하지만, 과외라고 생각하면 아니고...
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인턴이라고 생각하면 줘야 하지만, 과외라고 생각하면 아니고...
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