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홍차넷
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티타임
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- 다양한 주제에 대해 자유롭게 글을 작성하는 게시판입니다.
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전체기타일상/생각꿀팁/강좌방송/연예도서/문학영화의료/건강문화/예술경제생활체육과학/기술철학/종교정치요리/음식역사여행육아/가정IT/컴퓨터음악창작게임스포츠사회오프모임
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| Date |
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| Name | 메존일각 |
| Subject | 흔들림 없는 사진을 얻기 위한 적정 셔터 스피드 구하기 |
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우리가 사진을 촬영할 때, 대낮에는 대충 찍어도 사진이 흔들리지 않지만 실내나 저녁~밤에는 신중하게 찍어도 사진이 흔들리는 경우를 흔하게 봅니다. 받아들이는 빛의 양에 따라 카메라의 셔터 스피드가 변화하기 때문인데요. 그렇다면 흔들림 없는 사진을 얻기 위해 셔터 스피드를 어떻게 맞추는 게 좋은지 적어보려고 합니다. 귀찮으니 이미지 따위는 없...습니다. (???) #손떨방? 핸드블러? 손떨방이 뭡니까. 사진을 찍을 때는 셔터스피드(이하 셔속)를 높일수록 흔들릴 확률이 줄어듭니다. 예컨대 셔속이 (거리에 따라 어떤 움직이냐에 따라 다르지만 대충) 1/2000s 이상이면 어지간하면 (포커스가 잘 맞았냐는 별개로 하고) 카메라가 막 흔들리는 와중에 셔터를 눌러도 피사체가 거의 정지한 것마냥 선명하게 찍힙니다. 하지만 빛이 적은 환경일수록 셔속이 낮아지기 때문에 어느 정도 셔속에서 흔들리지 않는 사진을 얻을 수 있는지 여부는 매우 중요합니다. 조금이라도 빛을 더 끌어모으기 위해, 내 능력이 닿는 만큼 셔속을 낮추려 하기 때문입니다. #흔들림 없는 사진의 요구 셔속은? 그러면 사진을 찍을 때 적정 셔속은 얼마일까요? 이론적으로는 [렌즈 초점거리와 동일한 수치의 셔속](초점거리=1/셔속s)을 미니멈으로 계산합니다. 50mm 초점거리 렌즈면 1/50s, 200mm 초점거리면 1/200s 정도로 잡습니다. 망원으로 갈수록 흔들림폭이 커지기 때문에 요구되는 셔속도 커지는 것이죠. 하지만 셔속과 초점거리가 동일한 건 미니멈이라고 말씀드렸습니다. 실제로는 이 정도 셔속만으로 흔들림 없는 사진을 얻기는 쉽지 않습니다. 때문에 초점거리x2 정도가 권장 셔속으로 얘기됩니다. (공식적인 건 아닙니다) 85mm 초점거리면 1/170s 이상을 잡아주시는 게 좋고, 200mm 초점거리면 1/400s 이상 잡아주시는 게 좋습니다. #카메라 손떨림 보정 기능의 이해 요즘 카메라에는 핸드블러를 최소화하는 소위 손떨방(손떨림방지) 기능이 잘 갖춰져 있습니다. 바디는 기본이고 손떨방 기능이 있는 렌즈도 있습니다. 근데 '손떨방'이란 표현은 적절하지 않으며, [손떨보](손떨림 보정, OIS[Optical Image Stabilizer])가 더 맞는 표현입니다. 하지만 손떨방이란 말이 더 흔하게 사용되니까 계속 그대로 쓰겠습니다. 카메라의 기능을 설명하면서, 손떨림 보정 기능이 몇 스탑이나 렌즈 손떨방이 몇 스탑이냐 하는 식으로 [스탑]이란 용어를 함께 사용합니다. 카메라에서 스탑이란 빛의 증감을 표현하는 것인데, 여기서는 빛의 양을 몇 배 증감할 만큼 셔속을 빠르게 하거나 느리게 하는 것으로 이해하시면 됩니다. 2의 제곱 개념으로 표현되며 3스탑은 2^3이니까 8배가 됩니다. 즉, 3스탑 손떨림 보정 기능이 제공되는 카메라는, 현재 설정된 셔속에서 8배 높은 셔속과 동일한 효과를 제공해준다는 얘기입니다. 예컨대 카메라의 셔속이 1/100s면 1/800s와 동일한 성능이라는 거죠.(자세히 파고들면 얘기할 거리가 많은데 일단 이 정도로) 그러면 3스탑 보정 기능을 지닌 카메라에 70-200mm 렌즈를 장착했다고 가정하겠습니다. 최대 초점거리인 200mm로 촬영한다면 1/400s(초점거리x2) 정도는 돼야 하고, 스펙상으로는 카메라의 3스탑 보정 기능으로 8배 낮은 1/50s 셔속으로도 흔들림 없는 사진을 얻을 수 있습니다. # 정말 흔들리지 않는 사진을 얻으려면 한데 좀 이상합니다. 요즘 나오는 카메라들의 손떨방은 5~6스탑 정도이고 때로는 렌즈의 손떨방 기능의 도움도 받을 수 있는데요. 5스탑이면 32배이며, 200mm 초점거리의 권장 셔속인 (1/400s)/32 = 12.5. 200mm 망원에서 고작 1/12.5s 셔속만으로 사진이 흔들리지 않을 수 있다는 것인데, 이게 정말일까요? 믿을 수 있으신가요? 운이 좋다면 그럴 수도 있겠죠. 하지만 실제로는 거의 이루어지기 어려운 얘기입니다. 여기에서 두 가지를 추가로 고려해야 합니다. 1) 인간이 핸드헬드로 가능한 셔속은? 사진을 찍는(=셔터 버튼을 누르는) 건 보통 사격(shooting)으로 얘기됩니다. 소총을 사격할 때는 총의 개머리판을 최대한 어깨에 밀착한 채, 숨을 들이마신 다음에 2/3 정도 내뱉고 멈춰서 쏘라고 합니다. 사진도 거의 비슷합니다. 팔을 몸통에 딱 붙이고 숨을 멈춘 채 셔터를 눌러야 흔들림을 최소화할 수 있습니다. 이렇게 해도 훈련된 사진사의 경우 1/30s를 거의 미니멈으로 봅니다. 일반인의 경우는 분당 정상 심장 박동수인 60회에 맞춰 1/60s를 미니멈으로 잡습니다. 이 이하의 셔속으로 촬영할 수 없다가 아니고, 이 정도를 안정적인 결과물을 얻을 수 있는 미니멈으로 본다는 얘기입니다. 흥분되어 심장 박동이 빨라지면 셔속도 비례해서 올라가겠죠. 2) 제조사의 스펙 사양이 뻥카일 경우? 제조사에서 제시하는 N스탑은 자기들의 측정 기준에 의해 어느 정도 보정을 하게 됩니다. 복잡하게 설명하기는 좀 그렇고, 손떨방 기능은 '손떨림을 완전히 막아준다'는 게 아니고 흔들리는 사진을 얻을 확률을 줄여준다라고 보는 게 가장 현명합니다. 경험적으로 통상 제조사 제시 스펙을 절반 정도로 낮춰서 생각하면 대충 큰 문제가 없는 것 같습니다. 4스탑이면 2스탑, 5스탑이면 2.5스탑, 6스탑이면 3스탑 정도로만 계산하는 거죠. 6스탑 보정이 되는 카메라로 200mm 초점거리 촬영을 한다고 가정해 봅시다. 1/400s에서 3스탑 낮춘(400/2/2/2 = 50) 1/50s보다 높으면 실질적으로 쓸 만한 결과물을 얻을 수 있게 된다는 겁니다. 1)과 2)를 함께 고려하여 사람이 물리적으로 흔들림 없이 찍을 수 있는 셔속으로 보정해주셔야 합니다. 따라서 손떨방 기능이 아무리 훌륭해도, 개인의 능력치에 따라 적정 셔속은 다르겠지만 전문가 기준 1/30s, 저 같은 일반인 기준 1/60s 정도는 돼야 가까스로 흔들림 없는 사진을 얻을 수 있게 됩니다. 그렇지만 이건 미니멈 수치니까 사격하듯이 흔들림을 최소화시키고 신중하게 찍어야 하는 것이고, 당연히 이보다 더 높은 셔속이 권장됩니다. 제 경우 85mm 렌즈를 마운트하고 야간에 1/30s까지 셔속을 낮추는 경우가 간혹 있지만 정말 사격하는 느낌으로 신중하게 찍고, 결과물을 확대해서 흔들림이 없는지 반드시 확인합니다. 그리고 대개는 35mm 이하의 광각이라도 1/60s 이상으로 찍습니다. #결론 및 요약 글을 황급히 마무리한 것 같아 결론 및 요약을 추가하였습니다. 1) 흔들림 없는 상을 얻기 위한 적정 셔터 스피드는 렌즈 초점거리 X 2 정도로 계산하는 걸 권장. 2) 요즘 카메라에 대부분 포함된 손떨림 방지 기능은 제시 스펙의 절반 정도로만 계산하는 게 적당. (4스탑이면 2스탑으로, 5스탑이면 2.5스탑으로) 3) 사람은 숨을 쉬고 완전히 정지 움직임을 취할 수 없기 때문에 전문가 기준 1/30s, 일반인 기준 1/60s 셔속을 미니멈으로 계산하는 것이 적당. 4) 2)와 3)을 둘 다 고려하여 더 고속 셔터 스피드를 구하면 됨. (카메라 손떨방을 고려했을 때 1/50s가 나오더라도 1/60s로 맞춰서 촬영) # 참고 핸드블러 말고 모션블러도 있습니다. 사람이 가만히 있을 때, 걸을 때, 뛸 때, 자동차가 지나갈 때를 흔들림없이 잡으려면 거리에 따라 요구되는 셔속도 달라집니다. 예컨대 (거리를 빼고 말하더라도) 일반적으로 가만히 있는 사람은 1/15s 이상 돼야 한다고 얘기됩니다. 또, 스튜디오 촬영에서 권장되는 셔속은 1/125s~1/250s입니다. 보통 스튜디오에서 격렬한 움직임을 촬영하진 않기 때문에 피사체의 모션블러보다는 핸드블러를 막을 수 있는 안정감 있는 셔속으로 이 정도를 얘기하는 것입니다. 이상으로 적정 셔속 구하기 글을 마칩니다. 사실 잘 몰라도 되는 영양가 없는 내용인데 긴 글을 읽어주셔서 감사합니다. Warning: Use of undefined constant no - assumed 'no' (this will throw an Error in a future version of PHP) in /home/redtea/html/a_skin/bbsd/view.php on line 133 Warning: Use of undefined constant no - assumed 'no' (this will throw an Error in a future version of PHP) in /home/redtea/html/a_skin/bbsd/view.php on line 146 Warning: Use of undefined constant vote - assumed 'vote' (this will throw an Error in a future version of PHP) in /home/redtea/html/a_skin/bbsd/view.php on line 161 7 이 게시판에 등록된 메존일각님의 최근 게시물
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